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[Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?
Rich Brown
2018-02-14 13:43:27 UTC
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Hi folks,

I have been seeing Jim Gettys' post echo around the intertubes. This caused me to look at what we're saying about the Make Wi-Fi Fast project.

The "Current Status" at https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ says:

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As of early 2017, we have achieved many of these improvements, specifically a decrease of latency by at least an order of magnitude, with fair sharing of air time across fast and slow devices.

• Working software is available in LEDE firmware that runs on off-the-shelf routers, x86 boxes, and embedded systems.
• An academic paper describing the current state of the working software has been submitted for publication; a preprint is available at Ending the Anomaly: Achieving Low Latency and Airtime Fairness in Wifi.
• An earlier recorded presentation and status of the Make Wifi Fast Project
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Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.

Rich
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-02-14 14:44:14 UTC
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Post by Rich Brown
Hi folks,
I have been seeing Jim Gettys' post echo around the intertubes. This caused me to look at what we're saying about the Make Wi-Fi Fast project.
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As of early 2017, we have achieved many of these improvements, specifically a decrease of latency by at least an order of magnitude, with fair sharing of air time across fast and slow devices.
• Working software is available in LEDE firmware that runs on off-the-shelf routers, x86 boxes, and embedded systems.
• An academic paper describing the current state of the working software has been submitted for publication; a preprint is available at Ending the Anomaly: Achieving Low Latency and Airtime Fairness in Wifi.
• An earlier recorded presentation and status of the Make Wifi Fast Project
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Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.
Sure, updated :)

-Toke
Rich Brown
2018-02-15 14:47:12 UTC
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Post by Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
Post by Rich Brown
Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.
Sure, updated :)
Thanks! (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ <https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/>)

Rich
Ingemar Johansson S
2018-02-16 08:40:13 UTC
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Hi

Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper.
One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?

Regards
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Post by Rich Brown
Does someone who's close to the work want to update this with any
news/more conclusive statements? Thanks.
Sure, updated :)
Thanks! (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/
<https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/>)
Rich
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Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-02-16 09:31:51 UTC
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Post by Ingemar Johansson S
Hi
Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper.
One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?
Yes, it does (it shares the CoDel code with the fq_codel qdisc). The
WiFi stack turns off ECN marking if the station bandwidth drops below 6
Mbps (as measured by rate control), but otherwise it will ECN mark for
eligible flows instead of drop. :)

-Toke
Ingemar Johansson S
2018-02-16 09:45:34 UTC
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Thanks for the prompt reply, good news indeed!.

Regards
Ingemar
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Subject: Re: [Bloat] Update to status of Make Wi-Fi Fast page?
Post by Ingemar Johansson S
Hi
Thanks for the update and for the link to the conference paper.
One short question. Does the WiFi implementation support ECN ?
Yes, it does (it shares the CoDel code with the fq_codel qdisc). The WiFi stack
turns off ECN marking if the station bandwidth drops below 6 Mbps (as
measured by rate control), but otherwise it will ECN mark for eligible flows
instead of drop. :)
-Toke
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